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Re: Basilisk II Atari

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I'm trying to give this a whirl, but getting this:

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I'm using EMUTOS with a TT configuration as below:

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I'd really like to try this, but so far no go.

I'm on an M1 Pro Macbook Pro (2021 machine running Hatari.

I have a much older 2012 MBP, Intel based, I will give that a go too.
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Re: Basilisk II Atari

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Oh wait, I'm there!!!

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It seems I neglected to check the MMU button in Hatari, so I RTFM for Basilisk II and we have life :)
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Why the heck would Hatari allow a TT configuration without automatically enabling the MMU? It's not a TT without a full-fat 030+FPU.
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:13 pm Why the heck would Hatari allow a TT configuration without automatically enabling the MMU? It's not a TT without a full-fat 030+FPU.
Not sure, but there you go, it wasn't selected despite me picking TT as the machine I wanted.

Maybe a glitch for me, and certainly not the most performant, since it's Basilisk on an emulated TT running the Intel version of Hatari using Rosetta 2 on my Mac with Apple Silicon!!
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Meh! Intel code running under Rosetta runs faster than natively on the Core i7 chip.

(Technically Rosetta(2) still supports PowerPC and m68k if the support libraries etc. were present. Unfortunately they're not.)
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:49 pm Meh! Intel code running under Rosetta runs faster than natively on the Core i7 chip.

(Technically Rosetta(2) still supports PowerPC and m68k if the support libraries etc. were present. Unfortunately they're not.)
I'm just thinking that I have a Powerbook and an Intel Mac, so I could see how it runs on all three.
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Re: Basilisk II Atari

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The mouse cursor under MacOS is no longer usable. I run Basilisk with a 030 Mega STE with Fastram and Nova (1024x768) ET4000. I set the #mouse_speed to 0, 8 or 32 but there is basically no difference. Under MacOS, setting FAST in the mouse control panel does not help either.
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:24 pm Maybe a glitch for me, and certainly not the most performant, since it's Basilisk on an emulated TT running the Intel version of Hatari using Rosetta 2 on my Mac with Apple Silicon!!
You need to find a way to bring PPC into that impressive emulation stack of yours, and then top if off by running an AppleII emulator inside Basilisk :lol:
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frank.lukas wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:43 pm The mouse cursor under MacOS is no longer usable. I run Basilisk with a 030 Mega STE with Fastram and Nova (1024x768) ET4000. I set the #mouse_speed to 0, 8 or 32 but there is basically no difference. Under MacOS, setting FAST in the mouse control panel does not help either.
@frank.lukas , Interesting! Did that start to happen in 220630 or was it some of the earlier ones too?

Edit: I just re-read what you wrote and am I correct in assuming that you can move the mouse cursor but it's going in the wrong speed (or somehow else behaves badly?)

I first thought you meant that the mouse cursor is unmovable but if you are able to set FAST in the control panel I assume you were able to move the mouse to get to the control panel but it's not acting properly?

Am I guessing correctly if I am guessing that the mouse is moving too slowly on your machine now?
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Re: Basilisk II Atari

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This is probably the end of the "easy wins" for now and it's roughly equivalent to a 47.5Mhz LCIII. Pretty neat!
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This makes some hairy and dynamic changes to the MFP instead of the simple but slower code I had before.. what can possibly go wrong? :lol:
I'll run a few tests here before uploading it, would be nice to see what difference it makes on the TT.


It's actually a pretty impressive matrix of tests for just a single base computer, but no, I don't really test all combinations of software+hardware stacks anymore since it would take a whole day and drive me insane
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EmuTOS/TOS206/Magic/MiNT.
ET4000 8bpp / Shifter-Mono / Shifter-Color / Shifter-Mono (NVDI) / Shifter-Color (NVDI)
Sometimes ET4000 16bpp (native with bad colors + emulated for fixed colors)
Sometimes with the Ultrasatan to verify ACSI

I'll check at least one basic config of TT, Falcon030 and Falcon060 in Hatari though.
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